LAST ONE:
Andrew asks about his mental state and states that Kim doesn’t
agree with some of the over the top things that are said about him. Lloyd states that it is interesting that Kim
is saying that now, but it’s a little bit too late after she has put this all
into motion. Says he wont talk too much
about Kim because he is “litigating against her”. Says exJWs carry immense emotional baggage, hang-ups
and taboos regarding sex with no shortage of judgmentalism. Blames Kim for hurling accusations which as a
result have snowballed into something else.
“What Kim Silvio did was so invasive, Andrew, I’ve said at
the time I can’t imagine feeling that much different if someone came into my home
and burgled me and gunpoint and rifled through my possessions. Keeps mentioning Kim Silvio by name ever
after he said he wouldn’t mention her because of the litigation. Keeps saying it was invasive and goes on a
rant. Says that directly led to false
allegations of Patreon funds being misused and being involved in sex
trafficking. “It’s hard enough dealing
with the true stuff, but layer on all the defamation, insinuation and all of
the lies”.
“It really has pushed me over the brink”. Says the only thing that is keeping him going
in activism is that he hates to see bullies win and it’s clear he has support
from the remaining patrons and people giving positive comments on the
channel. Says he has spoken to other
content creators and it has left them “shellshocked”. Says this entire debacle has driven some
content creators to retire but doesn’t specify if they are exJW or
otherwise.
“Once the mob decided you need to be destroyed, you get torn
to pieces and there’s no recourse or some kind of independent arbiter on YT”. The internet is forever, mentioned his kids
who at 3 and 7, and at some point in the future they are going to have to deal
with all of this. All he can do right
now is hire lawyers and hold the people who are doing this over the next few
years accountable so he can point this out his children as being vindicated. All this boils down to is a “lack of kindness
and a lack of basic human empathy and compassion”.
Andre asks that since Lloyd is on the progressive side of
things politically, has this “bullying” given him a new insight into cancel
culture? Lloyd says he has always had a
nuanced view of cancel culture, he’s against a mob of unknown and unaccountable
individuals floating all this information on Twitter and deciding to destroy
people. He’s very much about principles,
social justice and equality and if that makes him woke, fair enough. Almost anything can be weaponised and taken
to an extreme and this applies to woke culture as well. Feels that woke and cancel culture are
generally good and seek to provide kindness, but then circles back to Kim
taking things to extremes.
Says he is taking things day-to-day and is in a better places
than he was 1-2 weeks ago and the anti-depressants are helping. Turned a corner now that the medication is starting
to have an effect. Says that he still
has enough money to maintain operations and pay Tibor. The big issue now is sorting out his own
mental health and the issues within his family.
Says his attempts to reconcile with his wife has been stunted due to all this
controversy. As for his marriage, it’s
too early to tell for him as to what this will result in but feels that he has
already hit rock bottom so there is hope.
Lloyd says he’s like to make a few more videos as he still
has something to say, but would like to be in “glorious isolation” like Luke
was in the new Star Wars trilogy on the remote island. Says he would just like to write books
because he’s a writer. He’s like to have
a boat and go fishing at weekends and being with his family. Stresses how hard this has been on all of
them, including the children. Says he is
sure Jessica (he names her) will have memories from this period. Again brings up Ukraine and seeing hospitals
being bombed, and says it’s not as bad as that.
Says he drove to the Hungary-Ukraine border to pick up refugees.
Andrew concludes that he knows there are people listening to
this that are out to get Lloyd, and to think about the human factor and how his
family is suffering. Be careful of what
you write on Twitter, think about that anger and what it will achieve.